so whats in this package :there are ww1 tanks, ww2 tanks, modern tanks, cold war tanks, futere tanks , robots, there are ww1 , ww2 , coldwar, modern and futere infatries, there are armored cars from ww1, ww2, cold war, and modern times,there are alot of jetfighters, biplanes, stealth bombers, heavy bombers, there are trucks , there are new battleship models ,ww1 ships, modern ship, cold war ships, ww2ships, you will never be able to set all these in one mod, this will make history!!!
ok, if i knew how to use these in the game, but i have just created these models for people that know how to add these in a mod. I will make an instruction, but it will be your own fault if you do something wrong. Have patience, i will make a mod.
hi, i'am new here. Love this game, was always waiting for some new units. I'am familiar with editor and i know about XML's. No prob to make new 2D's and write script's. Only 3D is new for me. Now back to the point. as far as i found out, MH is using 2 files for each 3D model in their directory --C:ProgrammeMuzzy Lane SoftwareMaking History GoldModern EuropesystemUIart3D--. 1st is a basic "NIF"-file for the model itself and 2nd a "KF"-file for animations. Now kosmonaftx was using a "DDS"-file for his models, like other games (Civilization,TotalWar,...) do. MH doesn't use DDS files with their 3D's. That's what I found out so far, maybe other's like TehBoss have some ideas how to get this great 3D models into game...???
hi kosmonaftx, well u confirm what i found out myself, lol. give u an example:
1)go to: "C:ProgrammeMuzzy Lane SoftwareMaking History GoldModern EuropesystemUIart3D" then choose as example "BomberUSA", replace the "Heavy-Bomber_USA"-NIF-file with ur "B52"-NIF-file and then RENAME ur file "B52" into "Heavy-Bomber_USA" so that there wont be a prob with the XML's. So far so good but how can u convert DDS into KF???...because if i use ur DDS instead of the KF or if i use both, the new model wont show up in game. i tried out all possibilities, nothing works. Also i think it's not possible to convert DDS into KF, right? as far as i found out the only way would be to create a new KF for the specified model. I also checked the "DisplayLibraries-XML's" but i think it's not necessary to change them. In my view the prob are the aniomation files...
really thank, alwaxer, i have some problems whit my computer, but i use my iphone for internet, i will update the file as soon as possible. And trying these models is at your own risk, make a backup file of the 3d art if you want.
yes, that would be great :) ...i understud that u're not a "programmer" ;) ...but it would really help if u take a look into the games' 3D-directory to find out what exactly u would have to change to get ur models working and as i described it above, it should be the different animation-format which u / game are using.
thx again for ur efforts and take all the time u need to fix it (...even we can't wait for it :D)
thanks, but i dont know how to make kf files, I never used it before can u offer some help, do you have some experience creating kf?
I havent, I need help with it...
hmm, i thought if someone knows how to make such great 3D models he should know about kf-files ;)
anyway, i'am personally a foooool regarding 3D stuff and kf is related to 3D, lol
...maybe TehBoss or other experts can bring their brain-power in here.
...and what can we both do? ...maybe w meet on skype so we can talk there and share our both brainpower, lol my skype-id: "alwaxer" ...i'll be online the next 1-2 hours so u can meet me there, cheers :)
...i made some further research using the "NifSkope" software to check the differences between the new models and the origin game models. there are a lot of differences but as i said, i'am a newbie with 3D stuff, so we would need someone who is a 3D expert. comment regarding "DDS", i converted it to "JPG", so these files have nothing to do with the animation (KF-files) used by Muzzy Lane. so what do we know?
1)New models have different NIF then the origin ones.
2)Animtion files are missing
3)alwaxer is a "fooool" who is still learning :D
4)we definatly need a 3D expert
Those models could be a great asset to modders, but they were taken directly from the Civilizations IV game. You just zipped the models folder from Civ IV and uploaded. I don't think the owners will authorize their use. :(
I had this suspicion yesterday, these models are coming from "somewhere" ;)
Anyway, I was wondering all time long why it seems only this game doesn't have a single 3D specialist who should be able to develop some new models for this great game. In most other games you already new 3D models integrated. Can't understand why here is nobody who is able to do this job, just think how modern units would improve the fun factor of all mods within 21st century. It's just cool to have MIG's, F18's, B52's, Leo's and Abrams fighting instead of antique tanks, fighters and bombers.
Odanan is the only person I know so far that has created his own 3D models for the game. Ya, I figured these were from Civ4 when I looked into the Churchill model and found the Icon from Civ4.
how does this work, can you just copy it into a file or do you need to change the XML's? I'm sorry if this has been explained before but there are a lot of people saying a lot of different things and i dont want to screw the game up.
Actually, these models are usefull if you're converting. Saves alot of time to just go through these than run all over the internet trying to look for an appropriate model. So, in a way, it's useful.
The 3D models, in their current state, DO NOT work with the game. The 3D models, when converted using nifSkope, DO work with the game.
I think it will be a good scenario if you use this 3d models!
how i add this models
the picture just a picture!
so whats in this package :there are ww1 tanks, ww2 tanks, modern tanks, cold war tanks, futere tanks , robots, there are ww1 , ww2 , coldwar, modern and futere infatries, there are armored cars from ww1, ww2, cold war, and modern times,there are alot of jetfighters, biplanes, stealth bombers, heavy bombers, there are trucks , there are new battleship models ,ww1 ships, modern ship, cold war ships, ww2ships, you will never be able to set all these in one mod, this will make history!!!
Is it possible to replace USA's medium bomber model with the C130?
how i add this models
kosmonafth where to put Mod: i sorry for spam
im sorry, but it isnt a mod, it are just some models wich can be used for a mod, maybe ill make a mod with it later...
woah! Finally someone added alot of models! This would go great with my new mod!
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ok, if i knew how to use these in the game, but i have just created these models for people that know how to add these in a mod. I will make an instruction, but it will be your own fault if you do something wrong. Have patience, i will make a mod.
Dude its hella easy. Just put them in UI/Art/3d/blah
you also have ato change some XML, display libraries/spritemaps (i think)
thank you tehboss
your welcome
also, WOW, these models are awesome! This will go great with my new mod definatrly! (Cold War)
5000/5
thanks for the 5 stars!
UI/Art/3d/blah what is blah?
blah is the folder(s) within the 3D folder.
still confused can you explian word for word when i put the files
should I just post the thing I emailed Cavetroll on the Forums? I should...
actually can't, in the post's preview, it shows up as [HTML REMOVED]
ok, techboss, we need you!!!!
teh boss i did excactly wht u said but i still couldnt use it maybe i might need a program or is it because it doesnt work on MH1
And i cant wait for mh 2 to come out
And i cant wait for mh 2 to come out
sorry about tht 2 reeats
pepeat
repeat
kosmofax u hust need to tell how to put these files in gameplay
hi, i'am new here. Love this game, was always waiting for some new units. I'am familiar with editor and i know about XML's. No prob to make new 2D's and write script's. Only 3D is new for me. Now back to the point. as far as i found out, MH is using 2 files for each 3D model in their directory --C:ProgrammeMuzzy Lane SoftwareMaking History GoldModern EuropesystemUIart3D--. 1st is a basic "NIF"-file for the model itself and 2nd a "KF"-file for animations. Now kosmonaftx was using a "DDS"-file for his models, like other games (Civilization,TotalWar,...) do. MH doesn't use DDS files with their 3D's. That's what I found out so far, maybe other's like TehBoss have some ideas how to get this great 3D models into game...???
if you read what tehboss said, you knew that.
hi kosmonaftx, well u confirm what i found out myself, lol. give u an example: 1)go to: "C:ProgrammeMuzzy Lane SoftwareMaking History GoldModern EuropesystemUIart3D" then choose as example "BomberUSA", replace the "Heavy-Bomber_USA"-NIF-file with ur "B52"-NIF-file and then RENAME ur file "B52" into "Heavy-Bomber_USA" so that there wont be a prob with the XML's. So far so good but how can u convert DDS into KF???...because if i use ur DDS instead of the KF or if i use both, the new model wont show up in game. i tried out all possibilities, nothing works. Also i think it's not possible to convert DDS into KF, right? as far as i found out the only way would be to create a new KF for the specified model. I also checked the "DisplayLibraries-XML's" but i think it's not necessary to change them. In my view the prob are the aniomation files...
...btw, thx to kosmonaftx for ur efforts to create this superb 3D models...would be really a joke if we can't get them into game ;)
really thank, alwaxer, i have some problems whit my computer, but i use my iphone for internet, i will update the file as soon as possible. And trying these models is at your own risk, make a backup file of the 3d art if you want.
I tought it was not nessecairy to make a kf file...
yes, that would be great :) ...i understud that u're not a "programmer" ;) ...but it would really help if u take a look into the games' 3D-directory to find out what exactly u would have to change to get ur models working and as i described it above, it should be the different animation-format which u / game are using. thx again for ur efforts and take all the time u need to fix it (...even we can't wait for it :D)
thanks, but i dont know how to make kf files, I never used it before can u offer some help, do you have some experience creating kf? I havent, I need help with it...
hmm, i thought if someone knows how to make such great 3D models he should know about kf-files ;) anyway, i'am personally a foooool regarding 3D stuff and kf is related to 3D, lol ...maybe TehBoss or other experts can bring their brain-power in here. ...and what can we both do? ...maybe w meet on skype so we can talk there and share our both brainpower, lol my skype-id: "alwaxer" ...i'll be online the next 1-2 hours so u can meet me there, cheers :)
ur right alwaxer
...i made some further research using the "NifSkope" software to check the differences between the new models and the origin game models. there are a lot of differences but as i said, i'am a newbie with 3D stuff, so we would need someone who is a 3D expert. comment regarding "DDS", i converted it to "JPG", so these files have nothing to do with the animation (KF-files) used by Muzzy Lane. so what do we know? 1)New models have different NIF then the origin ones. 2)Animtion files are missing 3)alwaxer is a "fooool" who is still learning :D 4)we definatly need a 3D expert
ok, thats a lot of work, but whats the difference of the orginal nif and my nif? I think i already had some kf in these models, but they dont work...
Those models could be a great asset to modders, but they were taken directly from the Civilizations IV game. You just zipped the models folder from Civ IV and uploaded. I don't think the owners will authorize their use. :(
I had this suspicion yesterday, these models are coming from "somewhere" ;) Anyway, I was wondering all time long why it seems only this game doesn't have a single 3D specialist who should be able to develop some new models for this great game. In most other games you already new 3D models integrated. Can't understand why here is nobody who is able to do this job, just think how modern units would improve the fun factor of all mods within 21st century. It's just cool to have MIG's, F18's, B52's, Leo's and Abrams fighting instead of antique tanks, fighters and bombers.
They are from civ4 but i remade them k-like the Un modern armor...
Odanan is the only person I know so far that has created his own 3D models for the game. Ya, I figured these were from Civ4 when I looked into the Churchill model and found the Icon from Civ4.
how does this work, can you just copy it into a file or do you need to change the XML's? I'm sorry if this has been explained before but there are a lot of people saying a lot of different things and i dont want to screw the game up.
This doesn't work.
Where I should put these files that will change something ???
Yeah Odanan is right. I've tried countless ways of trying to port them into MH, but it seems all efforts are futile.
And did anyone tried to fix the problem with KF and dds guys plz do something it will be more than fantastic to play with modern models
I'm not sure if we would even be allowed to use them, they are from Civilization IV so there may be a copyright issue.
were i most put those folders
NOTE TO EVERYBODY: THESE 3D MODELS DO NOT WORK FOR THE GAME!
Then why upload it? This is stupid. You uploaded 3d units which can't be used.
Actually, these models are usefull if you're converting. Saves alot of time to just go through these than run all over the internet trying to look for an appropriate model. So, in a way, it's useful.
The 3D models, in their current state, DO NOT work with the game. The 3D models, when converted using nifSkope, DO work with the game.
Yeah good rating, and why do you guys say it's from Civ IV?
I did say it's from Max Riga (Greatest mod for Civ IV made by MaxRiga), didn't I?
how can i use it ????????? please answer me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I suggest that you build a script that contains all that folders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me you can tell that you made to the program
ok buze ti si iz croatie ali po vaše hrvatske tko da se lahka pogovarjama v slovanskem jeziku!!!??? je tako???
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