Yeah im the first to comment

and second to Download

Its great, just a few house keeping notes. Sacramento isn't a port its inland and south of San Francisco. Technically Brasilia didn't become Brazil's capital till April of 1960. I'm not quite sure why all the cities in German Africa are nuked. Why did you reverse the colors on Burma and India? Why are all the cities in Muscovy nuked? The Netherlands, Belgium, France and Denmark are all democratic, and nether Britain nor France is allied to Germany. Why did neutral Spain choose Germany over Italy as an Ally when Franco trusted Mussolini much more than he did Hitler? Why are Germany, Japan and Italy not playable? And why is the Ukraine not allied to Germany? All just some minor questions. Its a great scenario.

Thanks for the feedback, Mrhistory!

Sacramento - fixing now;

Brasilia - I'm aware of that, but the city was built at that time, so I decided to ignore these 5 months;

The nuked cities represent razed cities - I will change the text "nuked" for razed; No historical reason to swap the colors...;

Netherlands, Belgium (to be renamed to Wallony) and Denmark - do you think they should be fascist?;

Britain and France - I was guessing that by the sixties they should start to free themselves of Germany (for the gameplay sake);

Spain allied to Italy - hmmm... maybe you are right;

Ukraine - fixing now.

Anyway, thanks so much for the feedback. I still have to do lots of things in the scenario, but any help point the incongruences is very welcome.

Ah, and I didn't make Germany and Japan to be playable countries because the point of the scenario is exactly to try to beat them both.

You'd better rename Leningrad to Sankt-Piterburg and Stalingrad to Wolgograd

Please don't forget that Hitler wanted to destroy all Slavs(Russian, Poles, Bulgarian,...) I think that if Hitler won the war then it would be a world only for German and then I think he would war with Italy and Japan for the whole Universe. What if the grandfathers AND grandmothers of my father and my mother didnt die in WWII, and the grandfathers AND grandmothers of the grandfathers? But whole my family died in war. I hate Hitler, I would kill him myself he is a fucking bitch ( sorry for my language) So what I want to say is that if Hitler the motherfucker won this fucking war then there would be no world.

I agreed about Hitler, if he had won the world would be hell for the races he tough "inferior". But this is a fictitious scenario, based on the book The Man in The High Castle - and it must be playable.

You should just make all the "Razed" cities have an IPU of 0 instead of being nuked, that said the ones in Muscovy would be better if they wern't razed because they will be vital to a Russia looking to get back on it's feet. Denmark and all the others should be Fascist if not a branch of the Nazi's a Hitler Regime would not allow them to exist as independent governments otherwise, he would tolerate totalitarian regimes. I can see Britain and France becoming more independent so I'm ok with that. Those were my only notes other than that it looks great.

FINALLY!!!

go to Mod Disscusion thread, I posted some things that I would like you to consider.

Sacramento isn't a port its inland and south of San Francisco.

South of San Francisco, what?? Sacramento is north east of San Francisco. It is in-between the Sierra Nevada mountain range, and the Bay Area.

Why is the Pacif states part of the German alliance, i thought you said it would be on the jaanese alliance, and why is it DEMOCRATIC.

I thought you said Madagascar would be a safe haven for jews?

Gosh RedPlanet, this isnt the finished scenario :O he even said in the DevNotes "Beta 1. Still lot to be done.".

So chill, Odanan is probably already aware of his minor mistakes, and has fixed them by now, be patient and wait for the next release :)

Cool! It's time to see the beta...

okay TehBoss, I guess I could shut my yap for little bit.

MAKE FOR MH 1 PLIZ

MAKE FOR MH 1

I fixed most of the things you pointed, RedPlanet. Keep doing what you are doing. ;)

kosmonaftx, why did you rated the scenario so low? Come on... one star?

Fallen forum discussion here:

http://making-history.com/forum/thread/332188/3

I think France is an intresting choise in this scenario.

I played as Russia, increased my industry, and conquered Turkestan, East Turkestan (well, its in Sinkiang), and Muscuvy (spelling)

Anyways, I liekd it, 5/5 stars. :D

USA, France and the British are strong nations in this scenario. If you choose Australia, Brazil, China, Canada or Russia, you will seriously need to build up your industry before trying to regain your lost territories.

Anyway, the scenario is like only 30% done by now. I still need to remake all the politic relations, armies, technologies and - the most important - to add the new units.

What new units are you planning on adding?

Denmark should not be a fascist nation, in history, the Germans did not take over Denmark, Denmark was just under German occupation. The King still ruled the nation, also, you should make them Authoritarian, but Denmark should be at war with Germany to remove them from their lands.

There should be a script that if the Danes get all German units out of the Denmark or a certain year, the Danes will be at peace and 'won' the war.

great scenario

Mouzie said

Denmark should not be a fascist nation, in history, the Germans did not take over Denmark, Denmark was just under German occupation. The King still ruled the nation, also, you should make them Authoritarian, but Denmark should be at war with Germany to remove them from their lands.

There should be a script that if the Danes get all German units out of the Denmark or a certain year, the Danes will be at peace and 'won' the war.

Are you serious? It could maybe work in MH2, but in Gold, they'd be crushed.

Actualy, kosmonaftx is right about Hitler. He wanted to kill all slavics too. The slavic cultures in the world are: Bulgarians, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Russians, Serbs, Ukrainians, Bunjevci, Croats, Kaszubians, Krashovans, Moravians, Poles, Silesians, Slovaks, Slovenes, Czehs, Gorani, Bosnians, Belarussians and Sorbs. I am Bulgarian, kosmonaftx is Russian, so we both don't like Hitler. Hitler's mistake was to go war with the USSR - a country wilth loads of natural resourses. German's resourse isn't so big to won the war. Once again the slavians proved its strengt.

Valerii macedonians are bulgarians

Bg88 said

Valerii macedonians are bulgarians

No, they aren't. They're their own ethnic group.

All slavic nations are one ethnic group, the first founding were from transilvania from 300ad, then they moved to greece and to russia, thy established Novgorod, Moscow, Kiev, Smolensk, Minsk, Jaroslavlj, Tverj, Rostov, Rostov-na-Donu, Belgrad, Warsawa, Krakow, Gdanjsk, ... Its the as the Chinese, there are very much different provinces and ethnic group but they are all chinese, same with the Slavic and one day all Slavs will reunite like the chinese did.

@Odanan, maybe because I dont like it? Its good for a beta... But it isnt a real scenario yet. But I will vote honestly when its ready. Sorry

FDR in FYROM living bulgarians not monkedonians.no Macedonian nation is communist propaganda. Serbian communists killed thousands of Bulgarians in Macedonia and propaganda make them think about makedons.makedontsi was only in ancient

 I have a problem with this scenario as I do with most of these scenarios.  IT

WILL NOT DOWNLOAD SO I CAN PLAY IT!!!!!!! I have windows 7 home premium. I download the file from this window, than I open it, and then I open another time until it is finished. There are a few files that are playable for me, like blitzkrieg, the reich victorious. Most of them I cannot play. Any suggestions?

Bg88 said

FDR in FYROM living bulgarians not monkedonians.no Macedonian nation is communist propaganda. Serbian communists killed thousands of Bulgarians in Macedonia and propaganda make them think about makedons.makedontsi was only in ancient

Huh. I guess Wikipedia must have lied to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonians_(ethnic_group)

Abdul: if you can't download, try a different browser. If you can't play, it could be: 1) You are not placing the scenario in the right place (folder); 2) you are not using Making History GOLD.

BTW, updated the scenario now.

ok in mokedonia living makedonians but germany in ww2 give on bulgaria makedonia see this vidio from skopie in 1942 http://www.vbox7.com/play:08015889

http://www.macedoniainfo.com/san_stefano_big.gif see etnic map

Odanan, now it needs to fix one more thing. You must type different breifing texts for the countries. Greec Macedonia must be gven to Bulgaria. And you must add the new models for adleast the big countries.

I based the map of Greece in this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triple_Occupation_of_Greece.png

Yes, but type in Google this: 1878 map of Bulgaria

Oooh, did I hear update? Downloading time!

Valerii said

Yes, but type in Google this: 1878 map of Bulgaria

Or just 1943 map of Bulgaria

Yes, look at TehBoss's map. Here is the Great Bulgaria map.

Ok! I will fix that.

What about Norway? is norway under germany or an independent country? Historicly, norway was an puppet state of germany with vidkun quisling as prime minister. But the exile government was still in charge sort of... But I hate all nazis and everything with it. My grandfathers grandfather had 3 brothers 2 died in the winter war, and 1 captured by the germans during action in one of the allied armies(Either Russian or british)

Norway is independent in this scenario, but (i think!) it's allied to Germany.

TehBoss said

Norway is independent in this scenario, but (i think!) it's allied to Germany.

Yes, it is. Now where the heck is Christmas Island?

*Googles * Oh. Somewhere in Oceania...

Here is the current To-do List:

• To set all political relations.
• To replace Coal Mines by generic Power Plants (representing Nuclear, Thermoelectric or Hydroelectric plants). To remake all the world energy map.
• To make nuclear weapons not to 'nuke' cities or resources and permanently raze them, but to deal massive regular damage. This way more units may have nuclear weapons (including ICBMs).
• To add corrected military forces.
• To add war plans.
• To add global events.
• To add countries descriptions and lobby art.
• To add new 2d art.
• To add new liberatable new countries (especially for Africa).
• To make a new research tree with new technologies and units.
• To set the research unlocked for each country.
• To add modern warfare units (Jet Fighters, Jet Bombers, Helicopters, MBTs, Modern Mechanized, etc.). *Huge work
• To add fictional 'what if' nazi units, like the Land Cruiser.
• New flags/decals to do: Serbia (fascist flag and roundel), Burma (Ba Maw flag), Cambodia (Kingdom of Cambodia flag), Laos (Kingdom of Laos flag), Mongolia (Japanese puppet), Philippines (Second Republic flag), Vietnam (Empire of Vietnam flag), Iraq, Iran, Greece (Italian puppet).

Norway was invaded and taken over by Germany. :P

FDR said

TehBoss said

Norway is independent in this scenario, but (i think!) it's allied to Germany.

Yes, it is. Now where the heck is Christmas Island?

*Googles * Oh. Somewhere in Oceania...

I was looking for a new location to put, since china was getting old, then I found it. "OMFG. Christmas island? ....AWESOME...".

So, CHRISTMAS ISLAND FTW! To be honest, until now, I had no clue wtf Christmas island was, I didn't even know it existed.

edit: OMG, the island is shaped like a thumbs up! OMG BEST.. ISLAND... EVAR..

Christmas red crabs live in burrows, in order to shelter from the sun. Since they still breathe through gills, the possibility of drying out is a great danger for them. They are famous for their annual migration to the sea in order to lay their eggs in the ocean. During the migration, the crabs cover the highway routes to the coast so densely that they can be seen from the air. Volunteers shovel the crabs off the roads and, although no harm is intended, some of the countless millions of crabs inevitably get injured.

They also have bas ass crabs what can be seen from their. God crabs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9H8p1ltwQ&feature=related

Make a cheesy 60's B-movie

ian241289 said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9H8p1ltwQ&feature=related

Make a cheesy 60's B-movie

I've never seen so many crabs in my entire life...

Really cool man, but the Rocky Mountin states are way to weak I think if you make a BETA version make them a little stronger so they dont get pwnd by the second turn.

I mean BETA 2

Roger that!

slow down, he still needs to work on research and make sure hes got everything checked twice (he needs to check mistakes and make upgrades)

I'm working on the next release, first fixing all the world's armies. I found outrageous the military power of China!

I hope im not rushing anything but are you also working on the unit models?

Not yet, but some of this models are ready for the mod (like those I put in Assets).

Odanan, did you purposely ignore my private message to you?

Updated the scenario.

I updated the scenario but apparently everybody is playing MH2 now...

I love this scenario :)

OMG I friggin owned as Italy

USSRman said

OMG I friggin owned as Italy

Did you fight against Germany?

Wow, as Mexico I defeated the following: Pacific states of America, RM, Canada, USA, all the Central America nations, and Peru. all of occupied Brasil (which I turned into a nation), and thats it so far.

RedPlanet said

Wow, as Mexico I defeated the following: Pacific states of America, RM, Canada, USA, all the Central America nations, and Peru. all of occupied Brasil (which I turned into a nation), and thats it so far.

O_O Wow...

Impressive!!!

Show us some screenshots!

RedPlanet said

Wow, as Mexico I defeated the following: Pacific states of America, RM, Canada, USA, all the Central America nations, and Peru. all of occupied Brasil (which I turned into a nation), and thats it so far.

Here is a little teaser for you guys: the GO 229 in all it's mighty.

Soon available in FALLEN.

Odanan said

Here is a little teaser for you guys: the GO 229 in all it's mighty.

Soon available in FALLEN.

Looks mighty fine

Featured scenario!!! Cooooollll!!! :D

Great Job Odanan!! (they should give you a copy of MHII for making it the feauterd Scenario)

I will try making a map of it, but I can give you some screenshots (I dont know how to paste them here)

@RedPlanet: click on "read in the forum". There you can use the reply option, add images, links, etc.

Scenario updated!

5/5!!!

But were are the new models ?

kosmonaftx said

But were are the new models ?

Soon! I'm stuck with making the icons of the new units. God, what a nightmare is making so many icons in so many different sizes. I don't know how I get the disposition to make all in Deadlock...

Probably because I think I would get a job in Muzzy Lane...

You should, man. You really should.

agread =] Waiting for the new models take your time xd

Awesome scenario

You really should rename German regions in Poland such as Weilopolskie to Posen, West Prussia, etc.

Also mabye you could find a Facist American flag and create the country of Amerika on the Germans Side. this could be made up of the German occupied US south.

600th download! Great job Odanan!

Odanan, I would be enthused if you made the Landkreuzer P. 1500 Monster in this scenario. German 1500 ton tank... :)

or at least the P-1000 xD

Odanan, are you still working on this one?

RedPlanet said

Why is the Pacif states part of the German alliance, i thought you said it would be on the jaanese alliance, and why is it DEMOCRATIC.

Weird, I played this scenario, It was apart of the Japanese alliance. I don't understand.

Great Scenario Odanan, 10/10 !

TehBoss said

Odanan, are you still working on this one?

Sorry! My attention is on TCBTS right now...

Odanan said

TehBoss said

Odanan, are you still working on this one?

Sorry! My attention is on TCBTS right now...

Germany has waaay too much IPU i recommend Decreasing its colonial cities down to 5-10 IPU rather than the current 25-30 per city i mean Africa alone gives them more or less 480 IPU

Russia needs more MPU currently iam playing and i have no way pf ondustrializing or making men because my MPU is like 5

When I resume the scenario I will take all your suggestions in mind, thanks! :)