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Carl said
How would heavy bombers make a difference?
Compare a thing like the B-17 to the JU-88
Big difference.
- Bigger Bomb Load
- Better defencive armament
- 4 engines instead of 2
If you want, you could compare the Lancaster and the JU-88 and see the same differences.
Same for the HE-111, and the Dornier.
Bigger bombers means bigger fear factor which means lower enemy moral.
You both are right about long range heavy bombers being useful for Germany
Germany's bombers didn't have the capability to bomb the Urals
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TehBoss said
Carl said
How would heavy bombers make a difference?
Compare a thing like the B-17 to the JU-88
Big difference.
- Bigger Bomb Load
- Better defencive armament
- 4 engines instead of 2
If you want, you could compare the Lancaster and the JU-88 and see the same differences.
Same for the HE-111, and the Dornier.
Bigger bombers means bigger fear factor which means lower enemy moral.
Except that terror bombing has never been very successful at lowering enemy morale. The Blitz only increased British defiance, and Allied campaigns like the fire bombing of Dresden had no noticeable effect in lowering the morale on the Home Front or among the troops (not to mention the fact that German wartime production peaked during the height of Allied bombing).
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Why Germany? How come they got stuck with Hitler?
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MajorWinters said
Why Germany? How come they got stuck with Hitler?
If Hitler kept his ass in Austria-Hungary, then the league of nations would've just trampled over Austria at the sight of poor Hitler trying to do something. Mussolini probably wouldnt have invaded anybody except for Ethiopia and Albania.
Hitler didn't create the Nazis, he only got the job because he was charismatic and persuasive
Hell if he wasn't assigned by the army to spy on the DAP, then Eckart would never have found him and would have molded someone else for the job.
The Nazis would have attempted to take over Germany whether or not Hitler was their leader. Whether they would have succeeded or not without Hitler is impossible to know.
Although its pretty much a foregone conclusion that if Hitler never found a master to mold him, he would never have gone anywhere in life
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You know, if the Me 262 had come out a year earlier, Germany might have won the war. But because of weak funding during the first stages of the development of the Me 262, it finally reached production when it was to late - by that time Germany had no resources to support them.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Germany had fuel shortages in 1944 because the allies destroyed German synthetic oil plants in 1944
They could have done so in 1943 and had the same effect on German logistics
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Carl said
Germany had fuel shortages in 1944 because the allies destroyed German synthetic oil plants in 1944
They could have done so in 1943 and had the same effect on German logistics
But, correct me if I'm wrong, the Allies never gained a strong foothold in the West until D-day, in 1944. Like I said, I may be wrong in assuming Allied attacks on mainland Europe were limited to air raids on inland targets, which, if Me 262s had already been produced in reasonable quantities, could be intercepted and repelled more effectively.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Here's a article that pretty much covers why the prospect of mass quantities of Me 262 being produced and utilized was not realistic
http://www.fun-online.sk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=87755&sid=8c85f00704e935241608cfcedfc181a4
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Thanks Carl. I didn't know that the engines were unreliable.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
It was Hitler's failure to retreat when the Germans were beat that led to the end of the war. That wasted a lot of German lives.
Your kidding me...What do you mean you have no idiots left?
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Hokiko said
One of the big mistakes started before the war the german research team made a lot of light bombers and stukas while they just made a very small amount of heavy bombers
I dont think that heavy bombers would have helped Germany win the war. They needed oil, tanks and trucks. Not heavy bombers to bomb citys with!
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Hitler's "hold-at-all-costs" policy completely wasted German troops, and sending troops to Bucharest instead of to where they needed wasted germans tanks and infantry. To clarify, read up on Operation Konrad. In a book I've been reading, I'm pretty sure that Guderian was in an arguement with Hitler or something about the subject
Yeah, his plan to hold every last meter/foot, really wasted good troops. Like in Le Havre, or in the Kurland! They had done much better fighting in Germany to defend THEIR country!
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I just remembered a HUGE mistake from Hitler/Germanys part that probably made it possible for the UK to fight with great streanght in Italy and Africa: One name .... Dunkirk!
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Dunkirk=Dead Rommel saying "WTF WERE YOU THINKING ADOLF!!!"
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MajorLufbery said
Dunkirk=Dead Rommel saying "WTF WERE YOU THINKING ADOLF!!!"
If they actually attacked Dunkirk the British would have had no land forces whatsoever to defend Britain and the French wouldn't have been able to create the Free French. The British would have been much more likely to sue for peace if the Germans attacked Dunkirk
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I think he means Dunkirk in the state that it didnt happen. Idk.
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Eiserner_Wille said
I think he means Dunkirk in the state that it didnt happen. Idk.
Oh. xD
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