The Fall of a Giant
said on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Review:

Before and Installer: I was going to think that this is going to be boring, I found out that I got surprised when the installer came up. Nice and flasy, like a professional. I am consern with the Nazi flag being use in the installer sense I am Israeli and some German players might not wish to break the law (all Nazi items like Nazi flag should not be use in games or movies unless historical reasons.) Therefore, your flag should be reasoned or changed to the Bundeswehr symbol (the black cross you can see in the game as German units.)

The game: When picking a nation, I loved the flawless spelling and grammar you did as well as the history and such of the nations. I found the history interesting and sense I am a history bluff, found no error.

The Axis are true to its name and therefore please to see little Finland in the Fight as well as a correct France.

However, the only flaw I have is the VERY tiny Russian army, this should be much bigger with ligh tanks and Conscripts to such the massive but heavy losses of the Russian armies.

If you like to discuss more, comment or PM me if you agree or disagree.

I see no problem with this mod and hopefully you'll take some of my advices.

I give this mod a 4/5.

While nothing is new, this is a great scenario like one that Muzzylane would release.

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said on Dec 01, 2009 at 05:48 PM

I think it is fantasticly organized. Maybe that is just me, But I overly enjoy the proper grammer and such you used in it.

Very nice job TehBoss.

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said on Dec 02, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Thanks for the wonderfull comments and good ratings!

said on Dec 03, 2009 at 05:28 AM

Hey Boss, I'm not getting this to come up in my scenario options when I start a new game. I've gone thru the procedure of opening up and running the program. Do I need to enter into game thru your mod?

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said on Dec 03, 2009 at 02:10 PM

Good scenario, but didn't the Germans and Russians have greater armies? It's worth playing, and it offers a good gameplay.

But what happened to USSRs industry in the Urals?

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said on Dec 03, 2009 at 02:47 PM

Mouzie said

Review:

Before and Installer: I was going to think that this is going to be boring, I found out that I got surprised when the installer came up. Nice and flasy, like a professional. I am consern with the Nazi flag being use in the installer sense I am Israeli and some German players might not wish to break the law (all Nazi items like Nazi flag should not be use in games or movies unless historical reasons.) Therefore, your flag should be reasoned or changed to the Bundeswehr symbol (the black cross you can see in the game as German units.)

It's people like you that make me cry for strategy games set in WW2.

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said on Dec 03, 2009 at 03:21 PM

I think it's good, but needs a few editings. 1. Macedonia is part of Bulgaria. 2. Urals needs a greather industry 3. A few new armies must be in Germany and USSR. 4. Set up an German army in the Bulgarian capital. 5. Banat and Transylvania must be Hungarian. That's all. I see you have copied my idea for the Croatian Provinces.

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said on Dec 03, 2009 at 09:26 PM

@Alfred is that a good thing?

@Valerii, please TehBoss comment, this is primarly forcus on Operation Barbarossa (German: Unternehmen Barbarossa). The Germans invasion of the former Soviet Union. Don't accuse people of 'stealing' or 'copying' ideas. If you dislike what he did, try and make your own.

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said on Dec 04, 2009 at 12:46 AM

Greek Macedonia wansnt occupied by Bulgaria. They occupied southern Serbia which cant be shown in game.

How did I copy ideas for Croatia. Im not a retard, i read history books. Croatia occupied Bosnia and Croatia (In-Game).

The Urals weren't mass industrialized until AFTER the German invasion.

Please dont accuse me of stealing ideas when I didnt.

said on Dec 04, 2009 at 12:48 AM

But what happened to USSRs industry in the Urals?

Read my previous post.

Hey Boss, I'm not getting this to come up in my scenario options when I start a new game. I've gone thru the procedure of opening up and running the program. Do I need to enter into game thru your mod?

It only works in MHGold, not Original MH, sorry.

but didn't the Germans and Russians have greater armies?

I'll definately update the mod in this sence. The Russians will have a better air force and army

said on Dec 04, 2009 at 01:35 AM

They don't have to have a 'better airforce' and army.

Sense, the Germany invaded with improved infranty and medium and (some) heavy tanks, I would stack around four or fives big armies, while powerful (not like huge but maybe around 300 each). The Russians would get light tanks, and conscript (or early infranty) and showing the masses forces of the Russian armies, which is the produce as many as you can and quickly send waves after waves after waves.

I would also increase the IPU of Moscow, Leningrad, and Stalingrad becase these three cities are dead important and will be a historical 'what if' if these important cities falls, this would increase the tenses and fun to send waves of Russian troops to defend Stalingrad, Mosow, and old off Leningrad as best as they can.

I hope you can take my advices into hand.

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said on Dec 08, 2009 at 05:22 AM

Mouzie said

@Alfred is that a good thing?

@Valerii, please TehBoss comment, this is primarly forcus on Operation Barbarossa (German: Unternehmen Barbarossa). The Germans invasion of the former Soviet Union. Don't accuse people of 'stealing' or 'copying' ideas. If you dislike what he did, try and make your own.

No it's not a good thing, you said your a history buff eh? Well the Bundeswehr was not even established in WW2, a history buff accept realism as it is and will accept the Third Reich Flag, he is a modder from America not Germany so he does not have to change the flag unless he really feels the need too. Your suggestion was irrelevant, and you call yourself a history buff.

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said on Dec 08, 2009 at 05:17 PM

You sir, are yet again, the symbol can be found used by the Bundeswehr, the black cross is still use, just greyed of in blue.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg/400px-Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg.png

Once again, you're so wrong, you keep questioning me about the flag, read the laws of Europe, which banned the flag.

Sense, you do not take the time to even prove a good argument and just a childish remark.

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said on Dec 08, 2009 at 07:03 PM

Mouzie said

You sir, are yet again, the symbol can be found used by the Bundeswehr, the black cross is still use, just greyed of in blue.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg/400px-Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg.png

Once again, you're so wrong, you keep questioning me about the flag, read the laws of Europe, which banned the flag.

Sense, you do not take the time to even prove a good argument and just a childish remark.

It is only the laws of individual countries that ban the nazi swastika and related symbols, e.g. Germany. In others swastikas may still appear even in official use.

And generally speaking, if a game or scenario features content forbidden in one's country, one should not therefore play it. It's as simple as that. I don't really think the argument hear is relevant.

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said on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:09 PM

You didn't even bother reading my posts at all, therefore you can't bring up an argument without reading ALL of it.

The flag I was talking about was not in the game, it was in the INSTALLER. I care very less about the Nazi flag in the game but the installer I am worried about.

And no, if you even read the German laws, ALL Nazism related symbols are banned, period. In game, the flag is changed into the Imperial Germany flag or just plain banned (or edited the flag to not show or be black).

If you still didn't read, I said he should change it so the those nations who sell the game will have no problem installing the game without breaking the law.

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said on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:22 PM

The Nazi Flag is not banned period. Most of the film Valkyrie was filmed on location in Berlin, you just have to get special permits to use the flag and the symbols and the German government has to certify the film is acceptably historically accurate before it can be released. So you're wrong about it being banned outright. The Germans never want Nazism to return, but they aren't about to deny their history either.

said on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Six-Pointed Star Zionism is not banned period , most of the film of QANA was filmed on location in lebanon , you just have to get special permits to use the flag and the phosphour and hollywood government has to certify the film is acceptablly histrocally again before it can be released , i hope Judaism Take off the mantle Political Zionism lobby

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said on Dec 09, 2009 at 12:20 AM

firestone said

Six-Pointed Star Zionism is not banned period , most of the film of QANA was filmed on location in lebanon , you just have to get special permits to use the flag and the phosphour and hollywood government has to certify the film is acceptablly histrocally again before it can be released , i hope Judaism Take off the mantle Political Zionism lobby

Random much? No one has said anything about the Star of David on here. Why did you just copy and paste Mrhistory's post and change some of the wording?

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said on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:04 AM

Because he's not very creative.

said on Dec 09, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Mouzie said

You didn't even bother reading my posts at all, therefore you can't bring up an argument without reading ALL of it.

Yes I read all of your posts.

The flag I was talking about was not in the game, it was in the INSTALLER. I care very less about the Nazi flag in the game but the installer I am worried about.

I said it was "in a game or scenario". The installer we are speaking of is a part of the scenario.

And no, if you even read the German laws, ALL Nazism related symbols are banned, period. In game, the flag is changed into the Imperial Germany flag or just plain banned (or edited the flag to not show or be black).

"the nazi swastika and related symbols" means what you are referring to as "ALL Nazism related symbols". I don't know what game you mean. At least in my version of MH the German flag is the swastika version.

If you still didn't read, I said he should change it so the those nations who sell the game will have no problem installing the game without breaking the law.

We are talking about the individual scenario, not the whole game, the selling product.

And I will repeat my point: if something is against the law in your country, you should not do it. If a scenario is using a forbidden symbol, then you don't simply need to play it.

Of course you are free to make a new mod with the exactly same content but with no Nazi flags.

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