Seriously, Imperial Army raping innocent Chinese women. Is that neccessary? Tojo's biggest mistake was getting a bunch of desperate-for-sex soldiers into the war. I once watched a Chinese movie and it has Chinese troops chasing a Japanese soldier who was running while doing up his zippers.
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Soldat98 said
Seriously, Imperial Army raping innocent Chinese women. Is that neccessary? Tojo's biggest mistake was getting a bunch of desperate-for-sex soldiers into the war. I once watched a Chinese movie and it has Chinese troops chasing a Japanese soldier who was running while doing up his zippers.
Hey pal, you look at any war, I mean ANY war, and that happened many times.
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MajorLufbery said
Soldat98 said
Seriously, Imperial Army raping innocent Chinese women. Is that neccessary? Tojo's biggest mistake was getting a bunch of desperate-for-sex soldiers into the war. I once watched a Chinese movie and it has Chinese troops chasing a Japanese soldier who was running while doing up his zippers.
Hey pal, you look at any war, I mean ANY war, and that happened many times.
i know the Nazis do that as well.
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Soldat98 said
Adolf Hitler's mistakes:
use the Jews as labor workers
Wasting the best German planes over Britain
invade the soviet union
starting the war too early
Tojo's mistakes:
invade pearl harbor with Aerial Warfare and not land
Encouraging his troops with Imperialism and not Superiority of their people
Too desperate for expansion (ended up as an unstable expansion)
wasting war resources on killing Chinese civilians and wasting their morale on raping chinese women
not advancing their technology fast enough like the US
note: please have your say as well
First; The invasion of USSR was Hitlers plan from the beginning so ... he would have done it any way. But he shouldnt have changed plan and kept bombing RAF and he should have attackede USSR on the spring in 1942 instead and helped Rommel in Africa under that time!
Second; Japan never invaded Hawaii, and that was the big mistake! They should had invaded Pearl Harbor and taken the islands so that the air fields, port and the oil could have benn theirs. They should had attacked the Pasiffic Fleet and their air forces but then invade the island. But because they didnt the Yanks could use the port of Pearl Harbor just after a couple of days and send in more plains, more forces and more supplys!
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MajorLufbery said
Soldat98 said
Seriously, Imperial Army raping innocent Chinese women. Is that neccessary? Tojo's biggest mistake was getting a bunch of desperate-for-sex soldiers into the war. I once watched a Chinese movie and it has Chinese troops chasing a Japanese soldier who was running while doing up his zippers.
Hey pal, you look at any war, I mean ANY war, and that happened many times. yes , u can see the lastest massacres in gaza & Palestine , Oallah,Give us wisdom and strength to liberate holy quds
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TO: Anyone RE: Hawaiian Island Invasion Scenario
Is there ANY scenario developed on the invasion of the Hawaiian Islands by Japan as the opening of the War in the Pacific?
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Soldat98 said
- wasting war resources on killing Chinese civilians and wasting their morale on raping chinese women
On the raping thing, I don't mean to sound perverted or anything, but I'm pretty sure that that would raise morale rather than destroy it...
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Yes, most likley true. Nothing perverted about it, in the light of which its being observed. You look all throughout history, and you'll find alot of the same scenarios. Plus, it can become part of a reputation.
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hi, iam german, lost most of our man of my family on the battlefield of russia fighting for the wehrmacht. i really dont think that hitler made mistakes or something else. if we, the germans, would won the war, ill be now a garrison soldier in ural or maybe more eastly. i prefer to play games at my pc^^ important is, by the way, that all dont have to forget who made it to a worldwar again. german invaded poland, true, but wardeclining comes from france and england. then, only then, it becomes a worldwar. but the military mistakes where already written here. first of all: -his stop at dunkerk to let the british expeditionarmy in france flee in hope to have an option to make friendly political deals, instead of moving forward. big mistake, it could be the british stalingrad. -stop bombing the radar and airfileds to attack cities. -not supporting the ideas of superbombers -invading ussr without planning for winter -punished the ukraine peoples by the einsatzkommandos, instead of bringing them to our site..the ukrainians were anti-stalin in their brains..after punishing, they become partisans -so close at moskau, and then the order to move south...idiotically order -how it went with stalingrad, big mistake -AND he didnt killed the spy called "richard sorge" in japan, the man who told the russians the plans of the panzerbattle at kursk. if the russians werent prepaired for such big attack, the war had an option to move into another side. -the irritating commandstructure as the allies invaded on d-day, no general or generalfeldmarschall had the balls to decide to attack. if the german panzerbattallions close to the coast, it were alot+the panzerlehrbattalion, moved directly to the coast, the invasion would be blown, sure with big casualties for the german, but holding the european continent. after a defended d-day, the allies would need years to restart another d-day.
however, if dunkerk wont happen, i think all the other mistakes wouldnt become real, coz the whole westfrontwar would had another result then and the war would move in another direction.
-Death to the superstacks! Set a limit of units per stack plz, maybe by adding an expensive HQ/General-unit which allowes the double of the limit, maybe a maximum of 30 units per pile then!
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hi, iam german, lost most of our man of my family on the battlefield of russia fighting for the wehrmacht. i really dont think that hitler made mistakes or something else. if we, the germans, would won the war, ill be now a garrison soldier in ural or maybe more eastly. i prefer to play games at my pc^^ important is, by the way, that all dont have to forget who made it to a worldwar again. german invaded poland, true, but wardeclining comes from france and england. then, only then, it becomes a worldwar. but the military mistakes where already written here. first of all: -his stop at dunkerk to let the british expeditionarmy in france flee in hope to have an option to make friendly political deals, instead of moving forward. big mistake, it could be the british stalingrad. -stop bombing the radar and airfileds to attack cities. -not supporting the ideas of superbombers -invading ussr without planning for winter -punished the ukraine peoples by the einsatzkommandos, instead of bringing them to our site..the ukrainians were anti-stalin in their brains..after punishing, they become partisans -so close at moskau, and then the order to move south...idiotically order -how it went with stalingrad, big mistake -AND he didnt killed the spy called "richard sorge" in japan, the man who told the russians the plans of the panzerbattle at kursk. if the russians werent prepaired for such big attack, the war had an option to move into another side. -the irritating commandstructure as the allies invaded on d-day, no general or generalfeldmarschall had the balls to decide to attack. if the german panzerbattallions close to the coast, it were alot+the panzerlehrbattalion, moved directly to the coast, the invasion would be blown, sure with big casualties for the german, but holding the european continent. after a defended d-day, the allies would need years to restart another d-day.
however, if dunkerk wont happen, i think all the other mistakes wouldnt become real, coz the whole westfrontwar would had another result then and the war would move in another direction.
All your points I agree with for mistakes and I wrote a lot in this thread and others what you mentioned :P
I don't believe the UK and France caused WW2. Poland was merely UK and France making a stand firm finally against Hitler's expansionist aims after appeasement failed and the UK and France didn't want to look weak on the world stage. UK and France didn't invade a country merely defended a countries independence. Germany was the aggressor so it was Germany starting WW2
Btw you said war declining and not war declaring which I think you meant :P
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i ment "declaring" for sure, thx ian, u r right^^ the entente forced to give ww1 a remake coz of the unpayable, non-realistic punishment-reparations-costs and way too much landstealing for the germans from the contract of versailles. there the ww2 already begun.
-Death to the superstacks! Set a limit of units per stack plz, maybe by adding an expensive HQ/General-unit which allowes the double of the limit, maybe a maximum of 30 units per pile then!
Makarovv said
and to think that ww1 was the war to end all wars...
You mean was called :P
It's safe to say not many would have predicted a war on an even greater scale then what they had just witnessed and with the supposed safety from Germany with the Treaty of Versailles so at the time it seemed a very fair presumption
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•not advancing their technology fast enough like the US
This may seem hard to believe but technology does not work in RL like it does in-game.
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Colorado said
Most will tell you it was simply the underestimation of Allied industry and the Soviet resistance.
The Japanese knew exactly the potential of American industry. This was the reasoning behind bombing Pearl Harbour then zerg rushing South East Asian colonial possessions. They would then go to a defensive stance until they could make the Americans request peace. This was their plan anyway. Pearl Harbour was important to prevent USA naval interference until Japan was in a strong defensive position and had what they wanted and so that the Japanese navy was a big enough deterrence to make the USA request peace
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But just before the attack on Pearl Harbor, the carrier ships moved away from the port.
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thegeniusmartin said
But just before the attack on Pearl Harbor, the carrier ships moved away from the port.
Which CaptainPatch says was planned deliberately to allow the US into war against Japan. I'm sure he will come on here and explain if needed :P
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Oh yeah, I remember now that the USA were informed about the attack at Pearl Harbor.
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Well, somebody at the highest levels knew it was coming. The carriers had been ordered out on a delivery run of some aircraft to Midway (I seem to recall). The thing is, they didn't make the movement as a major task force, as was SOP for a carrier group. The ships that were supposed to comprise the task force of that scale were deliberately left behind in Pearl Harbor -- where they got pasted. Other than the battleships (which were then considered obsolete by the War Department), all of the other classes of carrier escort ships were essentially replaceable by ships then stationed on the West coast and therefore within one day of Pearl Harbor.
Besides the ships were the radar stations. An on duty operator notified his supervisor that he had a LARGE formation coming in from the Northwest -- but his supervisor told him flat out that he was to ignore the spotting and tell no one. The operator logged the sighting anyway and it was later explained that the supervisor thought that the sighting was of a flight of B-17s that were scheduled to arrive. However, the operator had kept a journal and had written that the whole "Ignore it" incident was fishy, and that the supervisor was sitting on some secret. After the attack materialized and the weak "explanation" appeared, he felt there was a cover-up going on because if it was a scheduled flight then 1) why wasn't he told that at the time and 2) why would bombers fly all night to a point many miles Northwest of Hawaii, and then fly into a sunrise before landing?
And a third clincher was that a patrol ship spotted and sank a Japanese short-range sub attempting to enter the Pearl Harbor anchorage, which occurred not too long before the actual attack commenced. Again, orders had been issued to NOT pass the report up the chain.
The final nail in the coffin was a declassified report that the Brits had decrypted the Japanese JN25 code -- the one the Japanese used for all of the marshaling and maneuvering during the entire operation -- early in 1941, so Churchill was well aware of what was happening. It's highly unlikely that he chose to NOT share that info with Roosevelt, all things considered.
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