DISCUSSIONS

Making History HQ Forum>World War II>WW II Generals
WW II Generals
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 08:47 AM

Who was the most succesful general, the best, the smartest, the most bravest and who was the best to talk to big crowds?

In my opinion, it was the German generals who was the most effective and best. The Allied generals was good to, but they never showed so much military skills as some German generals could show.

Like Rommel, von Mastein, Bock, Guderian, Model, von Kluge, Kesserling and the old Rhundstedt.

Great generals from the Allies side: Patton, Monty, Simpson, Slim, Wavell, Alexander and of course the diplomatic Eisenhower!

Great genrals from USSR: Zjukov, Jeremenko and Rokossovskij.

_________________
"Idea becomes real" - Nordic Battle Groups motto

"A mans success isn't based on how high he can reach at the top ... only how high he bounces up when he have hit the bottom" - General G.S Patton
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 12:24 PM

...None from Japan? I'd say the same for Italy too, but I doubt they had a great anything in their military. I really only know Patton, Rommel, and Eisenhower, so I'll just slink away...

_________________
DEMONS
  • FDR
  • MHII, MH GOLD, MH
  • location: Montserrat
  • joined: Oct 17, 2009
  • posts: 1234
  • Banned
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 05:36 PM

Lol, Degaulle................No, i'm just kidding.

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 05:39 PM

I can think of some WW1 generals, but i'm drawing a blank on WW2...

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 05:50 PM

Great WW2 Japanese generals

Tadamichi Kuribayashi (his brilliant defense strategy was the reason Iwo Jima cost so many American lives)

Tomoyuki Yamashita (Battle of Malaya alone would be enough to make him a great general, but his overall record was excellent. Plus he advocated better treatment of conquered people and tried to prevent Japanese war atrocities)

I don't know of any great WW2 Italian generals

  • Carl
  • location: United States
  • joined: Aug 10, 2009
  • posts: 241
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 06:09 PM

Erwin Rommel (German)

Erich von Manstrein (German)

Walther Model (German)

Heinz Guderian (German)

von Bock (German)

Gerd von Rundstedt (German)

Alfred Jodl (German)

Lars Rafael (Finnish)

George Patton (American)

Dwight Eisenhower (American)

Clemen McAuliffe (American)

Bernard Mongomery (British)

said on Mar 07, 2010 at 06:10 PM

Carl said

Great WW2 Japanese generals

Tadamichi Kuribayashi (his brilliant defense strategy was the reason Iwo Jima cost so many American lives)

Tomoyuki Yamashita (Battle of Malaya alone would be enough to make him a great general, but his overall record was excellent. Plus he advocated better treatment of conquered people and tried to prevent Japanese war atrocities)

I don't know of any great WW2 Italian generals

That's probably because there are none.

_________________
DEMONS
  • FDR
  • MHII, MH GOLD, MH
  • location: Montserrat
  • joined: Oct 17, 2009
  • posts: 1234
  • Banned
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 06:16 PM

FDR said

Carl said

Great WW2 Japanese generals

Tadamichi Kuribayashi (his brilliant defense strategy was the reason Iwo Jima cost so many American lives)

Tomoyuki Yamashita (Battle of Malaya alone would be enough to make him a great general, but his overall record was excellent. Plus he advocated better treatment of conquered people and tried to prevent Japanese war atrocities)

I don't know of any great WW2 Italian generals

That's probably because there are none.

LOL! True. :)

_________________
"Friendly Fire isn't" Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers
  • TJelas
  • location: Unknown
  • joined: Feb 07, 2010
  • posts: 210
  • Banned
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 08:00 PM

Sorry, I forgott about em, there were a lot of good Japanese generals. It just that many of em wes Admirals both/instead of generals!

_________________
"Idea becomes real" - Nordic Battle Groups motto

"A mans success isn't based on how high he can reach at the top ... only how high he bounces up when he have hit the bottom" - General G.S Patton
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 08:31 PM

So, are admirals included?

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 07, 2010 at 10:42 PM

I would say not since this is about Generals. But it really doesn't matter to me :).

_________________
"Friendly Fire isn't" Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers
  • TJelas
  • location: Unknown
  • joined: Feb 07, 2010
  • posts: 210
  • Banned
said on Mar 08, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Admirals, Generals. I mean, they're pretty closeley related.

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 08, 2010 at 05:14 AM

Patton had balls which accounts for alot in war. Rommel wasn't scary but when Patton pissed in your rivers and tank rushed you knew to backoff lol.

said on Mar 08, 2010 at 03:24 PM

You can of course write about Admirals to!

_________________
"Idea becomes real" - Nordic Battle Groups motto

"A mans success isn't based on how high he can reach at the top ... only how high he bounces up when he have hit the bottom" - General G.S Patton
said on Mar 08, 2010 at 09:35 PM

Yeah! Now, after all that, I cant think of any. Damn memory...

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 09, 2010 at 03:08 AM

admiral yammamoto. midway was a major loss, but it was mostly bad timing. his actions in the south pacific were a series of the most spectacularly orcestrated naval invasions in history, destroying the british, american, duth, free french, and any other ship that got in there way.

the trick with american admirals is they really couldn't lose once industry kicked in.

  • warman45
  • location: Unknown
  • joined: Aug 22, 2009
  • posts: 288
said on Mar 09, 2010 at 04:37 AM

More Great Japanese Admirals:

Gunichi Mikawa (During the Battle of Savo Island, he used 5 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, and one destroyer (all inferior to allied quality ships) against 6 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, and 15 destroyers. 4 allied heavy cruisers were sunk while not a single Japanese ship was sunk)

Raizo Tanaka (Battle of Tassafaronga, great record during Rat Transportation runs)

Good (but not great) Italian Admirals:

Francesco Mimbelli (Battle of Crete, and Black Sea Naval Battles)

Alberto da Zara (Operation Harpoon)

  • Carl
  • location: United States
  • joined: Aug 10, 2009
  • posts: 241
said on Mar 10, 2010 at 02:33 AM

Cunningham

Freidrech Ruge

Sir Arthur Tedder

Leigh-Mallory

James Gavin

_________________
"Mors ultima linea rerum est mortalis."
said on Mar 11, 2010 at 05:30 AM

Carl said: More Great Japanese Admirals:

Gunichi Mikawa (During the Battle of Savo Island, he used 5 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, and one destroyer (all inferior to allied quality ships) against 6 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers, and 15 destroyers. 4 allied heavy cruisers were sunk while not a single Japanese ship was sunk)

Japanese night tactics were greatly superior to the US Navy's, plus the Long Lance torpedoes were deadly, aiding in the sinking of the Vincennes

_________________
Watch out buddy, the last time you only got a hole through your head...this time it could be worse
  • 00crusader
  • location: United States
  • joined: Dec 04, 2009
  • posts: 142
said on Mar 12, 2010 at 08:09 AM

And the nuke ended the war, bla bla bla.

Great Admirals:

Cunningham

Migawa

Nimitz

Yammamoto

_________________
"Idea becomes real" - Nordic Battle Groups motto

"A mans success isn't based on how high he can reach at the top ... only how high he bounces up when he have hit the bottom" - General G.S Patton
Making History HQ Forum>World War II>WW II Generals