AlfredBNJ said
Where did you guys get all the money for all those weapons used on the different theaters? Ever heard of the lend lease act? Britain couldn't have gone 6 months let alone three years without all that. ^^
Now name one documentary that has ever made more money then Call of Duty :)
This to me isn't an argument it's you complaining about something that is uncontested. I don't think they added anti tank gun as sniper for "balancing" I think they added it because they probably thought it was cool and would draw some attention. Lol I love how you say I am stereotypical American, when really there is not competition, as to what would have happened if we weren't give you the resources we were or even for that matter the USSR, about 80% if not more, of the bullets you used were American made. But sure if you want to talk about stuff of note how about Singapore.. oh wait...
As far as game that have made me stop playing because of historical inaccuracies I have never had that happen because I'm not fussed by this, if a game has good game play I couldn't care less if they had a dinosaurs running through the streets instead of Panzers assisting Germans in Poland.
I never said Britain did well in all I mentioned they did rather the opposite especially Singapore and Battle of France :P Although for our Singapore America did well at the Kasserine Pass ; ]
Also ever heard of colonisation :P. The USA wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Britain so really we planned for the future to have you for economic aid rolls eyes xD. We survived two years and stopped a German invasion of Britain without it so we did well :P. You needed us really as well, if Britain fell you would probably have a cold war against Germany instead Russia and with Hitler at the realm and the realistic probability of them having a nuclear arsenal the world have ended around the 1950's-1960's. (Before you pick me up on this I am merely speculating :P) The USSR would probably had survived with the Lend-Lease Act as they had stopped German victory in 1941 and after 1941 it was highly unlikely.
Also I didn't say everything I mentioned was about balancing. I also never said documentaries or historically accurate games made more then ones for entertainment but they nevertheless made money did they not. You just seem to interpret my words how you want to make an argument or twist it to mean something else to what I meant.
I also still enjoy historically inaccurate games don't get me wrong I merely realise the inaccuracies along with everything else and carry on enjoying the games. World at War is probably my favourite game as of now so historical inaccuracies don't bother me at all.
Dinosaurs are cool, in Yuri's Revenge you have to hold of hordes of T-Rex from destroying your time machine as the Soviets. Ah, good times.
All in all I merely mentioned historical inaccuracies I have seen in games I have played and nothing else so calm down dear.
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ian241289 said
I never said Britain did well in all I mentioned they did rather the opposite especially Singapore and Battle of France :P Although for our Singapore America did well at the Kasserine Pass ; ]
Also ever heard of colonisation :P. The USA wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Britain so really we planned for the future to have you for economic aid rolls eyes xD. We survived two years and stopped a German invasion of Britain without it so we did well :P. You needed us really as well, if Britain fell you would probably have a cold war against Germany instead Russia and with Hitler at the realm and the realistic probability of them having a nuclear arsenal the world have ended around the 1950's-1960's. (Before you pick me up on this I am merely speculating :P) The USSR would probably had survived with the Lend-Lease Act as they had stopped German victory in 1941 and after 1941 it was highly unlikely.
This paragraph is not going to be addressed because you are either misinformed or talking anti American plainly. Also thank you for colonizing us, what colonies do you have left again? How's that Suez Canal going brah? Oh right, America forced you to give up most of your colonies after WW2, whipped much? How your super power status going oh wait... you don't have that anymore my bad, it sure is nice to know I can lay my head on a pillow and just before I sleep that we are still a SP. Your speculation is nice, its a shame it never happened, because in the end what is speculation Ian?
ian241289 said
Also I didn't say everything I mentioned was about balancing. I also never said documentaries or historically accurate games made more then ones for entertainment but they nevertheless made money did they not. You just seem to interpret my words how you want to make an argument or twist it to mean something else to what I meant.
I also still enjoy historically inaccurate games don't get me wrong I merely realise the inaccuracies along with everything else and carry on enjoying the games. World at War is probably my favourite game as of now so historical inaccuracies don't bother me at all.
Dinosaurs are cool, in Yuri's Revenge you have to hold of hordes of T-Rex from destroying your time machine as the Soviets. Ah, good times.
All in all I merely mentioned historical inaccuracies I have seen in games I have played and nothing else so calm down dear.
I'm not twisting your words around, your doing a fine job of back tracking and covering your ass yourself.
Now really, you need to calm down and realize that what I have to say on a thread is just as welcome as what you had to say, so you calm down and stop making this about British verse Americans, if you would like to have a discussion like that you are more then welcome to PM me here on the forums.
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There should be a section for debates and such. It's fun to watch you two argue over whose country is better. But we really should get back on topic...
The only reason I know about this one is because someone was complaining about it on another forum. It relates to Empire: Total War. The Campagin starts in 1700, and we have Great Britain as a nation. But the Union between England and Scotland, which of course created Great Britain, didn't occur until 1707. Not really a big deal, but the person in question was really upset about it. I'm not sure why...
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OK, how can you not tell what I said was completely tongue in cheek and how angry are you getting at me. Deep breaths Alfred xD. I am calm btw lol what's to get angry over?
I also never made it British vs. America I merely defended Britain against your misinformation. You seem to be the one being over patriotic about all powerful America. Never once did I say Britain is a superpower. There you go again putting words in my mouth. I remember most colonies were practically independent anyway like Egypt, Canada and South Africa and we couldn't hold on to them and India helped in WW2 in return for independence. So Britain clearly knew it couldn't hold on to the empire and all the countries had independence movements. America encouraged us to accept their independence, not forced us.
How's America's colonies going on with the Philippines what you lost and small Pacific Islands compared to what was the largest empire ever (This is a joke). I also made a joke about us having a future plan for America to be of economic aid to us during colonisation but the joke clearly went over your head and started the patriotic rant :S
China will soon take the mantle of a military superpower in less then a decade and so will India while their economies are already bigger then yours so calm down about America being almighty towards me and deriding where I come from for no valid reason.
This all came about from you putting America on a pedestal and ignoring what Britain did and you made it into Britain vs. America because of jokes which you didn't understand or ignored. I informed you of Britain doing more then Battle of Britain and North Africa and you started with how Britain needs to bow to America and of Britains many failures.
I'm fine to end this argument and I accept America is the dominant country in the world currently and I appreciate what America did to help Britain. No need to be xenophobic and ignorant when I mention what Britain has done and using ad hominem remarks against a country :S.
No need for a pm. I see enough Britain vs. America and USA vs. Europe threads daily on the internet aha xD
We should get back on track FDR :P. Maybe the person in question is a patriotic Scottish person? :P
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I guess pointing out the obvious flaws in ones arguments makes that person angry, I didn't know that. I also love how you accuse me of hating Britain, on the contrary I was going to study there abroad in Glasgow but instead I am going to Zagreb. You also like to say that I am a patriotic American ranting for absolutely no reason, when your wrong in fact I'm not a patriotic American at all, a simple Google of my avatar would have given this away. All in all it was fun.
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AlfredBNJ said
I guess pointing out the obvious flaws in ones arguments makes that person angry.
I know it does look at the things you said ; ].
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ian241289 said
AlfredBNJ said
I guess pointing out the obvious flaws in ones arguments makes that person angry.
I know it does look at the things you said ; ].
Could be equally said for you, but then again you just hate Americans which is why you like to stereotype them, miritre? It's understandable with your jealousy and all, shame Britain is failing power with not much of a word even on the world show stage anymore. mirite?
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That wasn't necessary...
In fact you lost here any reason you might had, Alfred...
Could be equally said for you, but then again you just hate Americans which is why you like to stereotype them, miritre? It's understandable with your jealousy and all, shame Britain is failing power with not much of a word even on the world show stage anymore.
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Odanan said
That wasn't necessary...
In fact you lost here any reason you might had, Alfred...
Could be equally said for you, but then again you just hate Americans which is why you like to stereotype them, miritre? It's understandable with your jealousy and all, shame Britain is failing power with not much of a word even on the world show stage anymore.
Yeah I can see how telling the truth would make a person lose if its to harsh ;)
Also, this stopped being a debate when he used speculation and stereotypes, kthxbai.
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The fact you are celebrating supposedly winning the argument shows mass amounts of fail. What truth did you say? Biased opinion of course. Of course the UK is nowhere near as powerful as it was. Anyone who had an empire is the same.
The UK is a developed country, with the world's sixth largest economy by nominal GDP and the sixth largest by purchasing power parity. The UK nevertheless remains a major power with strong economic, cultural, military, scientific and political influence. It is a recognised nuclear weapons state and has the fourth highest defence spending in the world. It is a Member State of the European Union, a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, and is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, G8, G20, NATO, OECD, and the World Trade Organization.
Damn that failing power. We are still holding on xD
Also I recall America not going to war with Iraq and Afghanistan until the UK agreed. Why would America need a failing power for that. Oh yeah, because the UK isn't ; ]
Where did I stereotype Americans btw? I hate America so much I use their consumer goods, watch their films. play their games and listen to their music while having civil conversations with the other Americans on this site without national identity being a problem ; ]. That'll show them shakes fist OMG one use of speculation oh noes! The hypocrisy you are showing is amazing aha xD
Why are all your arguments based around the same flawed logic of us having a former empire like every other European country and even America? Is it because you can't think of anything else except your biased views, I think so xD
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AlfredBNJ said
Could be equally said for you, but then again you just hate Americans which is why you like to stereotype them, miritre? It's understandable with your jealousy and all, shame Britain is failing power with not much of a word even on the world show stage anymore. mirite?
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FDR said
Come on, guys. Let's try to get back on topic. Please? I'll be your best freind...
Who wants THAT?!
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i like canada. i especially like our deffence policy "why spend on guns when we have america to do that for us! =)"
and our economic policy "let america do the work, we'll just give em the oil and make them mine it out of the ground"
and our immigration policy "i don't even know where that is on a map so i think you'll fit right in here. welcome to canada!"
^these jokes however they are partially based on facts, canada has minimal deffense budget, as america handles most our pretection for free. we have the largest undefended border, and we trade almost half our crap with america, bying their products in exchange for our natural resources, while at the same time we have incredible acces to different cultures. i can get almost all american channels (local buffalo chicago) and national channels for britain and america, and for those of you who don't speak english, canada has a few french channels.
btw canadian troops in both ww1 and ww2 were known for bravery and resourcefullness when compared to other nations, we took vimy ridge in ww1 with a fraction of the forces that france used (france tried and failed, canda started the battle with less troops than the french lost) as well on D-Day in ww2 canadian forces faced the most heavilly deffended beach with the exception of Omaha, and pushed farther inland than any other army. candians fought the dieppe raid (the battle was unwinnable and was only executed for 1) political reasons and 2) to gain information relevent to the D-Day landings.
just spme facts =)
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warman45 said
i like canada. i especially like our deffence policy "why spend on guns when we have america to do that for us! =)"
and our economic policy "let america do the work, we'll just give em the oil and make them mine it out of the ground"
and our immigration policy "i don't even know where that is on a map so i think you'll fit right in here. welcome to canada!"
^these jokes however they are partially based on facts, canada has minimal deffense budget, as america handles most our pretection for free. we have the largest undefended border, and we trade almost half our crap with america, bying their products in exchange for our natural resources, while at the same time we have incredible acces to different cultures. i can get almost all american channels (local buffalo chicago) and national channels for britain and america, and for those of you who don't speak english, canada has a few french channels.
btw canadian troops in both ww1 and ww2 were known for bravery and resourcefullness when compared to other nations, we took vimy ridge in ww1 with a fraction of the forces that france used (france tried and failed, canda started the battle with less troops than the french lost) as well on D-Day in ww2 canadian forces faced the most heavilly deffended beach with the exception of Omaha, and pushed farther inland than any other army. candians fought the dieppe raid (the battle was unwinnable and was only executed for 1) political reasons and 2) to gain information relevent to the D-Day landings.
just spme facts =)
Not that I'm questioning the awsomeness of Canada, but what does that have to do with the topic at hand, random debate or otherwise?
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You forgot to say UK has the best music in the world since the sixties, not to mention great soccer and Harry Potter! ;) In my book culture is more important than military power.
ian241289 said
The fact you are celebrating supposedly winning the argument shows mass amounts of fail. What truth did you say? Biased opinion of course. Of course the UK is nowhere near as powerful as it was. Anyone who had an empire is the same.
The UK is a developed country, with the world's sixth largest economy by nominal GDP and the sixth largest by purchasing power parity. The UK nevertheless remains a major power with strong economic, cultural, military, scientific and political influence. It is a recognised nuclear weapons state and has the fourth highest defence spending in the world. It is a Member State of the European Union, a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, and is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, G8, G20, NATO, OECD, and the World Trade Organization.
Damn that failing power. We are still holding on xD
Also I recall America not going to war with Iraq and Afghanistan until the UK agreed. Why would America need a failing power for that. Oh yeah, because the UK isn't ; ]
Where did I stereotype Americans btw? I hate America so much I use their consumer goods, watch their films. play their games and listen to their music while having civil conversations with the other Americans on this site without national identity being a problem ; ]. That'll show them shakes fist OMG one use of speculation oh noes! The hypocrisy you are showing is amazing aha xD
Why are all your arguments based around the same flawed logic of us having a former empire like every other European country and even America? Is it because you can't think of anything else except your biased views, I think so xD
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well you guys are having a UK vs USA so i thought i would throw canada in there and see were it lands =)
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How about Australia. Dont forget them Aussies.
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UK vs. USA in Making History. Who do you guys think would win.
UK could definately pwn the USA for a while, but if they cant take them down quickly, then the American industrial base will completely overwhelm the UK and they will get destroyed by nukes dropped on their cities from American bases in Ireland or some other place closeby. Like France :{)
Back on topic:
I find that Half Life 2 is the most historicly inaccurate World War 2 game ever invented. Since when in WWII did they have jet powered drop ship and lazer cannons, not to mention big ass HD televisions. Also floating cameras. And what kind of name is Gordon Freeman? And what is with that pwnage superman suit he wears? I also doubt anyone in WWII had a goatee, c'mon ;)
