Why do Americans hat communists, I mean anyone who disagrees with equality for all is just a bit self-centred are they not? I would think it is probably something to do with the cold war, in which case I totally understand if it is meant to mean Russian rather than Communist,(An ideal created by a German)
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no, it is directly meant to apply to comunist, there were all sorts of derogatory phrases that applied specifially to russians =)
it stems from the cold war. communism is against capatalizm, all the capatalists, are also the members of government or corperations with influence, ergo people with money ahte communism because they'll can't be rich in a communism. so they speak for the country and say we hate communists. but really they hate anti-capitalists, that's why america has no problem with china (except that china is stealing the US's thunder.)
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I've never met an American who would say they hate communists, they may very well disagree with them, but they don't hate them.
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Exactley. Besides, if we didnt, we wouldent have much use for all these nukes. ;)
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If you take a good look at the political landscape, we have gotten to the point where it is actually rare to have opponents "agree to disagree". Opponents MUST be loathed for the fact that they hold an opposing ideology. You may fudge by saying that they shouldn't be blamed because they were lied to and misled. But think about that: You're actually suggesting they should be forgiven for being misguided because they're too STUPID and/or gullible to recognize the Truth when it's right there in front of you for all to see! Listen to talk radio: Rush Limbaugh -- who is much of a blatant bigot as you'll find anywhere -- has a regular audience of 22 million listeners. I could go on for quite awhile listing talking heads and the size of their audiences, but hopefully you get the point: the large majority of adult Americans hate the ideas espoused by their opponents, rather than simply disagreeing.
The reason why this is so is because the entire US history is soaked in hatred. First, Americans hated the Indians that stood in their way. ("The only good Injun is a dead Injun!") Then it was any and all foreigners that didn't obviously believe that the US was the greatest nation to ever emerge on the face of the Earth. Then it was those animalistic n_ _ _ _ s that were better off enslaved than running free in Africa. Then it was Southerners hating those damn Yankees and Northerners hating that Secessionist trash down South. Then the defeated Southerners hating the freed slaves that stayed in the South and Northerners hating blacks that moved North to steal the jobs of decent white folks. Then hate the Spanish! enough to go to war for what those bastards were doing in Cuba. (Which was a pale imitation to what the US did to the Filipinos after we "liberated" the Filipinos.) And then hate the Huns! And then hate the Nazis, Japs, and Wops!
Which brings us to the American hatred of those godless Commies. Starting to see the pattern? Americans hate adversity -- literally. It's what binds us together, our hatred of _ _ _ _ _ . (Fill in our national opponents for the decade.) [And if you are real astute you will recognize the similarity to how the Nazis/Hitler targeted the Jews as being what would bring all "true Germans" together, united in a common hatred.]
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so, what do you want to do? send all of america to anger management? i'm down with that.
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The problem is that to arrange for Anger Management For All is that it has to be set up by our Government -- which happens to be the main proponent of the "Who Should We Be Hating Now?" program. When We The People are tightly focused on hating a perceived threat -- perceived because of all of the "this is who you should blame for everything wrong in the world" placards that our leaders are flashing -- it makes manipulating We The People MUCH easier. It how A Few stays in control of The Many.
What We The People NEED is to have a Second American Revolution, with all of our backstabbing double-dealing bought (by the Corporations) horrifically executed in a VERY public setting so everyone can see, "This is what happens to those that betray We The People!" But it ain't never gonna happen. Americans today are far too complacent. We may be annoyed by the malfeasance of our own Government, but not enough to actually DO anything about it (beyond complaining, that is).
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CaptainPatch said
The problem is that to arrange for Anger Management For All is that it has to be set up by our Government -- which happens to be the main proponent of the "Who Should We Be Hating Now?" program. When We The People are tightly focused on hating a perceived threat -- perceived because of all of the "this is who you should blame for everything wrong in the world" placards that our leaders are flashing -- it makes manipulating We The People MUCH easier. It how A Few stays in control of The Many.
What We The People NEED is to have a Second American Revolution, with all of our backstabbing double-dealing bought (by the Corporations) horrifically executed in a VERY public setting so everyone can see, "This is what happens to those that betray We The People!" But it ain't never gonna happen. Americans today are far too complacent. We may be annoyed by the malfeasance of our own Government, but not enough to actually DO anything about it (beyond complaining, that is).
By saying We The People again you have put that Mudvayne song in my head once more xD
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as well by condemning the people who abused "we the people" you have become a major proponent of hatred and therefore need to commit yourself to anger management.... sorry.
now to disturb the forum with a realistic idea to solve the "we hate you and are better than you" attitude of america.... it is not very healthy or profitable. were it not for nukes than america would not maintain stabillity, so i propose we build a tom clancy end war style missile shield that removes nuclear ICBM's form the equation, we then set up AA missiles along the mexico and canadian border, and set up a coalition of governments to blockade america. or.... we could simply keep the missile shield and let america's economy run dry (it will eventually, especially with no nukes to stop china from interfering with oil.)
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warman45 said
as well by condemning the people who abused "we the people" you have become a major proponent of hatred and therefore need to commit yourself to anger management.... sorry.
now to disturb the forum with a realistic idea to solve the "we hate you and are better than you" attitude of america.... it is not very healthy or profitable. were it not for nukes than america would not maintain stabillity, so i propose we build a tom clancy end war style missile shield that removes nuclear ICBM's form the equation, we then set up AA missiles along the mexico and canadian border, and set up a coalition of governments to blockade america. or.... we could simply keep the missile shield and let america's economy run dry (it will eventually, especially with no nukes to stop china from interfering with oil.)
America seems to be going the way of the USSR what with massive debt and certain states starting to have murmurs about independence
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i seriously doubt any states will declair independance. the USSR may have dissolved into many minor states but that was mostly because they had minorties in these states that were distinctly independent (ukrainian) whereas the ethnicity in the united states is a little similar for there to be seperatism. most likely the whole country will financially degrade to the point where they are about as wealthy as britain was in the 50's.
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warman45 said
i seriously doubt any states will declair independance. the USSR may have dissolved into many minor states but that was mostly because they had minorties in these states that were distinctly independent (ukrainian) whereas the ethnicity in the united states is a little similar for there to be seperatism. most likely the whole country will financially degrade to the point where they are about as wealthy as britain was in the 50's.
I know of Texas wanting some form of independence and some of the Southern states
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warman45 said
as well by condemning the people who abused "we the people" you have become a major proponent of hatred and therefore need to commit yourself to anger management.... sorry.
This IS me after Anger Management. (Scary thought, ain't it?)
LOL
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ian241289 said
warman45 said
i seriously doubt any states will declair independance. the USSR may have dissolved into many minor states but that was mostly because they had minorties in these states that were distinctly independent (ukrainian) whereas the ethnicity in the united states is a little similar for there to be seperatism. most likely the whole country will financially degrade to the point where they are about as wealthy as britain was in the 50's.
I know of Texas wanting some form of independence and some of the Southern states
they may want independence but i don't believe they are ethnically different enough to seperate. ideas and propaganda flow too easilly from one state to the other (compared to the USSR wich had definit ethnicities.) basically i believe that all the states will decide to seperate, they will then decide to seperate together, in wich case they'll simply elect a new government to save on costs.
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I dunno. Even here in California, back during the Bush Administration there was a LOT of talk about possibly going our own way. (Just by itself, California as a nation would have the 6th largest Economy in the world.) [One supposes that....] Because California was solidly against Bush in both the 2000 and 2004 elections, once he was in office, a LOT of Federal funding was that was due to California was cut from the Budget for highly questionable reasons. (Meanwhile, in Republican Alaska, there was talk of building a Bridge To Nowhere.) Considering what was going on then, a LOT of people started to thinking that maybe Texas, always chaffing about breaking off on its own, may very well have the right idea. All that is needed to start the ball rolling is to have ONE State declare bankruptcy, and the Federal Government refusing to step in and bail it out.
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warman45 said
ian241289 said
warman45 said
i seriously doubt any states will declair independance. the USSR may have dissolved into many minor states but that was mostly because they had minorties in these states that were distinctly independent (ukrainian) whereas the ethnicity in the united states is a little similar for there to be seperatism. most likely the whole country will financially degrade to the point where they are about as wealthy as britain was in the 50's.
I know of Texas wanting some form of independence and some of the Southern states
basically i believe that all the states will decide to seperate, they will then decide to seperate together, in wich case they'll simply elect a new government to save on costs.
Are you now agreeing on what you disagreed with me about?
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Gmoney542 said
Well nowadays Americans love communism, at least the ones that voted for Obama.
Naw. We just want the Wall Street banksters that have nearly destroyed the Economy, and the Big Business outfits that have been destroying the planet, all in the name of maximizing their profits, to clean up their act some. We just figure their greed is what's making the world a mess and we should use the money they leeched from the rest of of us to pay to clean up the mess. It's not so much Communism as it is Applied Karma In Action. Not making any progress in that regard though. Too many people are sucked into the "Free Trade" rhetoric. It's why you have one of our elected politicians start an investigation of BP by giving them an apology. "You're responsible for turning the Gulf into one vast polluted puddle, but it should be us apologizing to you!" Yup. That's Communism for ya.
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Ya I have to say after this gulf oil spill crisis is over, which they are saying might not be till christmas, I better not hear a single word about Bush and Katrina used in the same sentence, I'm tired of hearing people try to bash Bush by bringing up Katrina when the lack of immediate support wasn't even his fault, how are you supposed to bring buses to evacuate retards that should have left in the mandatory evacuation and bring in trucks with supplies when there is at least 3 feet of water, people here may not know much about cars but water intake into the engine = no combustion = BAD